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Re: [ITP] wtf


On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 10:21:35PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 08:56:57AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > Great, that makes 3 votes.  Now all I have to do is get someone to review
> > > the packaging (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).
> > FWIW, I've installed the binary - it seems to be working nicely. I've tried
> > bowth wtf and wtfindex.
> > I've also recompiled the source to see if I can - no problems..
> Great.  Is the packaging structure ok?  Should I move the manpages to
> /usr/share/man while I'm at it?
IMHO, it's a good idea on the way to normalizing the Cygwin tree, but I'm not
picky about it (seeing as pcre isn't normalized in this way yet)

Other than that (and including that too) the structure looks OK to me. I've 
just read the README as well - looks OK too (though I wouldn't have added the
<prefix> and would have added the .exe suffix for the diff. executables, but
that's just me..)

> > > I don't see a particular value in weeding out duplicates, as all variants
> > > will be displayed, so no information is lost.
> > Actually, they only get displayed if they're in different files - bug?
> Umm, no, a feature.  Basically, the files are indexed by the acronym, so
> duplicate entries in the same file get lost.  Since different files use
> different indices...  In short, this is unlikely to change any time soon.
The difference between a bug and a feature is often in the eye of the 
beholder ;)

> > > However, I'll see if I could "hide" the original acronyms...
> > The thing that got me to ask was this:
> > $ wtf iirc
> > iirc: If I Recall Correctly
> > iirc: if I recall correctly
> Ah, yes, I see.  Well, I'll try to work on this in the next release,
> maybe.  Otherwise, this is not too harmful.
I agree :)
 
> > and personally, I think this may come off as odd:
> > $ wtf iwfm
> > iwfm: It Works For Me.  Also WFM. Corinna, you want credit for this one?
> >
> > someone not familiar with the web version of the OLOCA might frown at this..
> > I don't really mind, though..
> Agreed.  However, in the interests of expediency, I'm going to keep the
> automatic transformation of the web version for now.

> 
> > However, there are some things not quite in accordance with the wtf way of
> > doing things in the OLOCA:
> >
> > $ wtf Cygwin
> > Cygwin: Multiple variants have been suggested, take your pick:  Coolness You Get Where Initially None (mine) Can You Guess What's Implemented Next (mine) Cramming Your Gut With Indispensable Necessities (Gary R. Van Sickle) Cygwin: Your Greatest Winner In Necessities (Ronald Landheer-Cieslak) Can't You Get With It, Ninnies? (Christopher Faylor)
> >
> > IMHO, this should be
> > $ wtf Cygwin
> > Cygwin: Coolness You Get Where Initially None (mine)
> > Cygwin: Can You Guess What's Implemented Next (mine)
> > Cygwin: Cramming Your Gut With Indispensable Necessities (Gary R. Van Sickle)
> > Cygwin: Cygwin: Your Greatest Winner In Necessities (Ronald Landheer-Cieslak)
> > Cygwin: Can't You Get With It, Ninnies? (Christopher Faylor)
> 
> How about
> $ wtf Cygwin
> Cygwin: Multiple variants have been suggested, take your pick:
> - Coolness You Get Where Initially None (mine)
> - Can You Guess What's Implemented Next (mine)
> - Cramming Your Gut With Indispensable Necessities (Gary R. Van Sickle)
> - Cygwin: Your Greatest Winner In Necessities (Ronald Landheer-Cieslak)
> - Can't You Get With It, Ninnies? (Christopher Faylor)
> ? ;-)
> 
> > but I don't see how to do that at the moment - at least not without either
> > patching wtf so it takes multiple entries for the same acronym in a single
> > file into account, or making several files for the various duplicates..
> >
> > Hmm.. this looks like a PTC situation..
> 
> Well, I've done this by reformatting the list entries for 80-column
> screen.  Those with larger ones can always reformat it (see the README).
> I'll see about getting some way of encoding newlines into the descriptions
> and passing the patch to the upstream maintainer.
Actually, the part I tried is a way of encoding newlines into the descriptions,
which is why I though it to be a PTC situation :)

> Ok.  I've posted a new version of the package (at the URLs quoted below).
> It contains the updates from the web version of the OLOCA (including "JAT"
> and "JTYMLTK"), as well as better formatting for the Cygwin acronym.  This
> one is actually ready to be uploaded.  Thanks for the reviews and the
> votes.
You're quite welcome :)
Thanks for the packaging :)

rlc


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