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Hello, This is a request for feedback on whether adding the packages that make up the Coda filesystem would be something that would be supported. I haven't taken the time to produce the packages yet, but would like to know whether it would be "worth my time" to do so. Current state: Coda is a distributed file system (http://coda.cs.cmu.edu) that has run on UNIX-like systems for a long time. There is currently active support for Linux and NetBSD with some moderate support for FreeBSD. Over the past few years, there has been development of a kernel module for Windows that has now reached a point of stability that makes Coda run well in Windows. Coda for Windows would not work without Cygwin because the kernel module passes requests to get files from the file server to a user space daemon, venus. While there are some changes to venus for the Windows environment, venus still can not run without cygwin. The same is true for most of the user-land binaries that support the Coda filesystem. CMU currently runs a private mirror of the cygwin distribution that includes two local packages, coda-base and coda-devel. coda-base is all the cygwin binaries required and coda-devel is a "meta package" that just exists to provide the prerequisites to rebuild the coda-base package. There is also special built .exe that is distributed on the Coda ftp site that provides for the kernel module installation and configuration of a Coda client. (coda-base is part of base in this private mirror since the sole reason for the mirror is to support Coda.) Proposal: Several people have suggested that Coda should be distributed completely as a standard Cygwin package. Given that a postinstall.sh script could install the Coda .sys files and the required registry entries and configure a "standard installation", I think it is possible to build such a package(s). Coda source has is available for all but one small part of the kernel module. Most of the source is under GPL v2. Some files are distributed under the BSD or CMU licenses. The Kernel is composed of two parts, a propritary "File System Development Kit" done by OSR (Open Systems Resources, Inc.) and a CMU written Coda specific "file system driver". The FSDK part is available as a Coda-specific .sys file that is free of charge to Coda users. The CMU part is available with full source code under the GPL V2. There is an arrangement with OSR that allows Coda users to obtain free of charge the required files from OSR to be able to rebuild (and develop) the Coda kernel module. Other uses of the FSDK are expressly forbidden unless you purchase rights to use it from OSR. To support Coda as a standard part of Cygwin I would propose the following packages: lwp (Libs) -- A Coda specific light weight process library. rvm (Libs) -- A "recoverable virtual memory" library that allows persistant memory based data structures with a transaction system for consistency in the face of crashes. rpc2 (Libs) -- A remote procedure call package used by Coda (depends on lwp) codafsd(net) -- The Coda "file system driver", the kernel module required to make Coda work. coda (net) -- Coda binaries including venus, the client cache manager, and vice, the coda server. This package would do a standard setup for client. Would require knowledge and work to finish building a Coda server. (depends on lwp, rvm, rpc2, and coda-fsd.) This would require the coda-fsd for a server. Coda servers do not need the codafsd. An alternate package list could be lwp, rvm, rpc2, codafsd and then split coda into: coda-client (net) -- The client binaries. coda-server (net) -- The server binaries. The problem with this is that both server and client are compiled from the same source tree. It would make the coda-client and coda-server packages have the same source tar file and the source tar file would not be called either coda-client nor coda-server but just coda. "The vote ..." (not GTG votes, just concept votes ...) I would like to have two questions answered: 1) Is there support for adding Coda packages to Cygwin so any mirror has Coda ready to install? 2) If yes on 1, which package set, coda single package (client and server) or coda-client and coda-server packages? Thanks for taking your time to look at this. --Phil p.s. The private mirror is updated with the most current cygwin and coda packages. It is located at http://coda.cs.cmu.edu/mirrors/cygwin. The current install .exe is located at ftp://coda.cs.cmu.edu/pub/coda/winnt. (ntcoda-b4.exe) -- Phil Nelson (phil@cs.wwu.edu) http://www.cs.wwu.edu/nelson NetBSD: http://www.NetBSD.org Coda: http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu
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