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RE: NO huge packages, please!


Peter,

At 10:38 2002-11-07, Peter A. Castro wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > ... I'm a bit confused as to which problem we are addressing here now.
> >
> >--
> >Peter A. Castro <doctor@fruitbat.org> or <Peter.Castro@oracle.com>
> >         "Cats are just autistic Dogs" -- Dr. Tony Attwood
>
> ...
>
> While it's true that Setup does have a retry facility if something goes
> wrong during download, it's manual: if a failure occurs during package
> download, then when everything is done you get an alert stating that there
> was a problem and asking if you want to retry. Then you're taken back to
> the page of the wizard that downloads the package list and you pretty much
> have to start over.
>
> Far from ideal, really.

Ah, yes, I do recall seeing this.  But, I wouldn't really call this a
re-try facility, because if 1 out of 100 packages downloaded with errors,
the "re-try" will pull all 100 packages all over again.  A far cry from
ideal, I'd say :) This is why I was proposing something much more
realtime.  Such that during the download of a package, if an error
occurs, it prompts you to re-try right there any then.  A further
optimization would be to have a checkbox to automagicaly do a re-try up
to a certain number of times.
Not true. Setup goes back and re-fetches the package list and re-computes necessary downloads. So if 1 out of 100 package retrievals failed, then only that one package will be fetched on the second go-around.


> On the other hand, wget is pretty automatic and is rather persistent (and
> customizably so) in its attempts to surmount failures during downloads, so
> there's much to recommend it for users with links that exhibit frequent
> failures.

Except that they end up either having to craft the commands to pull only
those package directories they really want, or pull the whole she-bang.
Again, not ideal.  If I get time, I'll look at Setup and see what it might
take to add this "feature" (no guarantees, though).
Well, that's what shell scripts are for, right? Personally, I have a very low threshold of reuse or repetition before I dash off a script to relieve me of "manual" effort. I just hate repeating myself!

Be sure to review Max Bowsher's recent mail about the Setup code. Apparently it (Setup's source) is in slight disarray with some ongoing enhancements in progress.


> By the way, thanks for giving the details on altering wget's naming
> behavior. I figured it could handle it--it's got so many options--but I was
> a little too lazy to go look it up.

You're welcome :)

> Randall Schulz
> Mountain View, CA USA

--
Peter A. Castro <doctor@fruitbat.org> or <Peter.Castro@oracle.com>
"Cats are just autistic Dogs" -- Dr. Tony Attwood

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


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