Re: base-files 4.0-9: LANG is set to the system default, why not the user selection?

[Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at gmail dot com>]

17.02.2012 0:03, Peter Rosin ÐÐÑÐÑ:
> Mike Kaganski skrev 2012-02-16 12:14:
> > 16.02.2012 21:11, Peter Rosin ÐÐÑÐÑ:
> > > Peter Rosin skrev 2012-02-16 06:52:
> > > > David Sastre Medina skrev 2012-02-15 23:14:
> > > > > The files under /etc/profile.d are sourced by /etc/profile, which sets
> > > > > system wide settings.
> > > > > For user-defined values, the place to override a system-wide setting
> > > > > depends on the shell you're using. E.g., for bash, it would be
> > > > > ~/.bash_profile. Check /etc/skel/.bash_profile. It should include
> > > > > these lines:
> > > > >
> > > > > # Set user-defined locale
> > > > > export LANG=$(locale -uU)
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably you have a customized ~/.bash_profile, so updating to
> > > > > base-files-4.0-9 didn't replace it.
> > > > Hmmm, ok, that doesn't completely match what I'm seeing in my $HOME, my
> > > > .bash_profile *looks* (who am I to tell, it's attached) unmodified from
> > > > 4.0-6, so just a quick question, what postinstall script is responsible
> > > > for moving the updated skel files into $HOME?  I couldn't find any, but
> > > > admittedly didn't spend much time looking...
> > > I located base-files-4.0-6.tar.bz2 and my copy in $HOME is indeed not
> > > modified.  So, your assertion that customization was preventing the
> > > update seems wrong (the date of my .bash_profile is consistent with my
> > > original Cygwin installation date).  I question whether the skel files
> > > are automatically copied to the home directory at any other time than
> > > at home directory creation.  Are they?
> > >
> > > PS. I have modified ~/.bashrc and ~/.inputrc, if that is relevant.
> > /etc/defaults/etc/profile is what creates home directory. When executed for the first time for a user, it outputs to the console:
> I believe it's /etc/profile that is populating the home directory for
> new users. /etc/defaults/etc/profile is the latest version as provided
> by the base-files package and will have the same content unless you
> have "poisoned" /etc/profile with local edits.  If you are pedantic.
Mea culpa.
> > Copying skeleton files.
> > These files are for the users to personalise their cygwin experience.
> >
> > They will never be overwritten nor automatically updated.
> >
> > Just pay attention to what is told :)
> Yes, but when the *maintainer* of that file states otherwise, who should
> I pay attention to?  If you read between the lines of my previous message
> you would understand that I already knew this.
>
> Look, I'm only harping on about this since the base-files maintainer
> should have understood that doing a system-level change in one place
> that is later supposed to be reversed by the skel files isn't going to
> fly for existing installations.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
Then you seem to just mock at the maintainer. It's not too polite. Yes, 
it would be desirable if this effect (and the proposed steps to fix it 
for those who already use this package) would be noted in the release 
advertisement. Yes, sometimes even a maintainer may make mistakes on 
their maintained stuff. But if you have some objections or proposals, 
it's better to simply say so to people who devote their time and 
knowledge to us. And append "thank you" in the end.

--
Best regards, Mike.

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